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aaangyl
aaangyl
YES WE CAN HAS!
Sun, Jan. 27th, 2008 12:53 am
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adameros
adameros
A Quark of A Different Spin.
Sun, Jan. 27th, 2008 05:02 pm (UTC)

Interesting how each successive images is zoomedout more, making the previous picture look worse.


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resipisco
resipisco
Liberator of Skies
Mon, Jan. 28th, 2008 01:50 am (UTC)

Deception sure is interesting.


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aaangyl
aaangyl
YES WE CAN HAS!
Mon, Jan. 28th, 2008 02:00 am (UTC)

The zoom changes bugged me too, especially because if you use the side of the building and the yellow umbrellas as markers, the difference would still be very obvious even without it. I do wonder if it was maybe unintentional though, if it was intentional it seems like it would be more concealed, like with angle changes as well or something. But it's a shame they weren't framed identically, yes.


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smallerdemon
smallerdemon
smallerdemon
Sun, Jan. 27th, 2008 05:25 pm (UTC)

I've seen this one before, but it's definitely a "picture is worth a thousand words" photos. Of course, in the second picture you don't get the malodorous wonders of a bus ride like you do in real life. :)


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aaangyl
aaangyl
YES WE CAN HAS!
Mon, Jan. 28th, 2008 02:18 am (UTC)

That's very true. I mainly posted it because its on thing to see a bus or bike on the street and another thing to think about how many not-cars that represents.


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lemurling
lemurling
lemurling
Sun, Jan. 27th, 2008 05:48 pm (UTC)

As a daily bus rider, I wish more people would understand this and give the buses a break when they're trying to get in and out of traffic. So many cars not on the road!

But I have to say that buses are much more comfortable to ride on when they're not completely full. Even half-full though, that would take up less space than the same number of people on bikes, and way way way less than those people in cars. They're starting to roll out more and more zero emissions buses that run on natural gas. I'm hoping for a new wave sometime soon of buses that run on electricity (without having to be connected to a system of wires).


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aaangyl
aaangyl
YES WE CAN HAS!
Mon, Jan. 28th, 2008 02:25 am (UTC)

I think if busses magically became more utilized and more wealthy people voluntarily made the choice to ride, you might see, for example, more of those wealthy people encouraging throwing money at making busses more comfortable, adding wifi or air circulation systems etc, similar to the way you see public schools improve dramatically if you can get enough wealthy people to send their kids there. Of course, it's a chicken-and-egg issue that works like gentrification, so there'd be later downsides you'd have to work hard from the start to mitigate socially. Unrealistic but nice dream. :)


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lemurling
lemurling
lemurling
Mon, Jan. 28th, 2008 06:49 pm (UTC)

While better buses would be great, mostly I just care about their environmental impact when I think about upgrades. Buses may take up less room than the bicyclists, but the people on bikes are better for the environment. I'd like to feel less guilty about riding the bus.

That said, the main commuter buses are starting to go wifi around here, like the bus that crosses the Dumbarton. And my company's shuttles have wifi, especially the long distance one to SF. Some of the train lines have wifi too.

I find buses plenty comfortable as they are now, I just prefer it when I have a whole seat instead of having to share. I'm not germphobic or overly fastidious though. And if I happen to get on a bus early or late, and things are a bit whiffy, the thought in my head is not 'I wish this bus had better air filtering' but instead, 'I wish as a society we would take better care of our disadvantaged.' It's really not that bad, and if it is, moving to a different seat is enough.

There's a stigma about bus riding that really exaggerates the reality of it. But more than the stigma, the idea that car=independence is the biggest barrier between increased use of public transit by the well-off. I try to tell people that there is a different kind of freedom in being able to get around without a car, but mostly, no one believes me.


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phoebe_k
phoebe_k
phoebe_k
Sun, Jan. 27th, 2008 07:48 pm (UTC)

Great pic. I've been very happy as a bus convert. It's getting to the point where I have trouble understanding why anyone would choose to drive everywhere when there are ecologically superior options viable in Seattle. (Well, with the exception of the very old, for whom walking is difficult, and the handicapped.) Special shout out: I admire people who bike everywhere, like Lynne; people who fill their motorcycles with biodiesel, like my friend Jesse, and people who bus in the Bay Area where the bus system isn't as popular or as convenient as it is in Seattle, like Thea,.


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aaangyl
aaangyl
YES WE CAN HAS!
Mon, Jan. 28th, 2008 02:26 am (UTC)

Amen!


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nasu_dengaku
nasu_dengaku
Matt
Sun, Jan. 27th, 2008 08:02 pm (UTC)

There should be a fourth picture with the amount of space required to transport all the people on a subway, and it would show an empty street. ;-)

I like subways as they don't get stuck in traffic.


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aaangyl
aaangyl
YES WE CAN HAS!
Mon, Jan. 28th, 2008 02:29 am (UTC)

Subways seem (and I have no idea if this is true or not) to more often promote sketchy situations for women. I'm specifically thinking of NY and a lot of asian subway systems where they have to put cops on patrol or actively encourage women to NOT ride alone at certain times. I've heard of that on busses in Africa an South America sometimes too, so maybe the subway has nothing to do with it?


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resipisco
resipisco
Liberator of Skies
Mon, Jan. 28th, 2008 01:49 am (UTC)

o hai, can has personal space?


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aaangyl
aaangyl
YES WE CAN HAS!
Mon, Jan. 28th, 2008 02:30 am (UTC)

I don't know how true it is for how many people, but when I put on headphones and look at a book or out the window or something, my world tunnel visions and I'm less bothered by personal space issues. Crowds on the street bug me more than someone sitting next to me on a bus.


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