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aaangyl
aaangyl
YES WE CAN HAS!
Thu, Jan. 31st, 2008 05:29 pm
// This is why I don't post about politics... /

Yeah, go ahead, vote for Obama, he's clearly earned his darling of the radical left position. Don't cry when he winds up being another Clintonian centrist, just one flavored with charisma, post-boomer values, and more about actions than detail-minding. And pay close attention to who he gives his ear to, because that's going to matter a lot.

(Personally, I think Hillary would do a much better job, once there, but her campaign tactics have hurt her already shaky position, and I think she's convinced enough people she won't win for it to become a reality. Politics are complicated in a country with so much selective memory loss... or lack of historical education? Well, I didn't come here to snark about my country. I should have just said "vote Obama" and left it at that, now I'll look like a flip-flopper! ;)

[EDIT:] O WAIT I'm not done yet, I have something else to say and I want to get it all in one politics post. Another part of why I wanted to see Hillary in was something of the "you boomers got us into this mess, now stand up and get us out of it" mentality - and I really think she knows how, too. Her attention to detail is amazing, and she saw and activated on many major issues way, way before they hit the public mind.

ALSO, Washington is very, very weird with its primaries. I can't vote in Cali's, because I'm registered there as a 3rd party. I might be able to get registered to vote in WA, but apparently my vote doesn't actually COUNT in the primaries here and it's all very smoking the crack. In conclusion, if I can't manage to vote here, I won't cry, and I'll just make sure I'm all registered locally before the REAL election.

[EDIT2: Watching today's debate now. Anybody else notice how Obama keeps gesturing into Clinton's space and how she moves towards and away from him as she's drawing comparisons and contrasts, but is less willing to invade his space?]

[EDIT3: Number of times I've said "OH SNAP!!!" so far: 23]

[EDIT4: I would so like to hear, just once, in a debate, someone respond to the 'well, you changed your position on that from time x to time y' with 'I took in more information and talked to experts and really studied it and realized my initial reaction was slightly off the mark, and decided it was better to be right than to stand firm on something wrong'. Now THAT would earn MY vote.]

[FINAL: The thing is, Clinton CLEARLY has a much better understanding of what she'd be getting in to. There's an uncomfortable idealism in a lot of Obama's assertive-visionary mode. There's more power in them as a team than either alone.]

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chrisla
chrisla
Chris LaPlante
Fri, Feb. 1st, 2008 01:55 am (UTC)

I'm voting for Chicken John myself... *grin*


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aaangyl
aaangyl
YES WE CAN HAS!
Fri, Feb. 1st, 2008 02:39 am (UTC)

You should register republican and do that in their primary!


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ashley_y
ashley_y
Ashley
Fri, Feb. 1st, 2008 01:57 am (UTC)

But Clinton's evil...


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aaangyl
aaangyl
YES WE CAN HAS!
Fri, Feb. 1st, 2008 02:45 am (UTC)

Evil like Google or evil like Microsoft?


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ashley_y
ashley_y
Ashley
Fri, Feb. 1st, 2008 02:47 am (UTC)

More evil like Microsoft, I'd say. Obama is evil like Google.


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aaangyl
aaangyl
YES WE CAN HAS!
Fri, Feb. 1st, 2008 02:30 am (UTC)

That's part of the bad campaign tactics I was referring to. I would have loved to see them make with the friends and run together.

I've never met either of them of course, and I have no idea how much of what I pick up is inherently them and how much is the team they're working with, but Hillary has always struck me as the archetype of the detail-oriented forward-looking political force that keeps getting tripped up in playing the game. I think she'd have made a BRILLIANT Veep to Obama, who seems more like the Kennedy/Clinton/Reagan school of ZING! Charisma. I think he'll do just fine if he picks the right people to put his faith in, but no, he just doesn't seem to have an internalized details maven like she does, that doesn't feel like the level he works on. Which, again, makes him come off as a much stronger frontman... Doesn't the internal antagonism bug you? WHy can't they all accept that each has a special set of talents, and try to find a way to apply them all no matter who wins?


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stemware
Rob
Fri, Feb. 1st, 2008 03:07 am (UTC)

I think Obama is viewed as too radical by centrists whereas McCain is viewed as middle of the road by the same centrists. In other words, I think Hillary has a chance against McCain, but Obama does not. This is the prime reason I was a Hillary supporter and not an Obama supporter.


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karlean7
karlean7
Mike
Fri, Feb. 1st, 2008 03:26 am (UTC)

That's interesting, because the primary reason I want Obama to win is because I was under the impression that if Hillary did, then all of the people who hate her (and there are a lot, she is a very divisive candidate) would come out of the woodwork and the Republicans might stand a chance.

Though I might be okay with McCain, anyway.


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